This whole thing is a bad idea. Shouldn't lawmakers follow the laws they make? I'm just asking. What if someone else had found that gun? I'm just asking. Be a first responder? To what? To another law abiding gun owner carrying in the capitol? Have there been a lot of shootings by felons or other prohibited purchaser at state capitols?"In the moments after lawmakers and visitors cleared a committee room Feb. 6 following a debate on concealed handgun permits, Rep. Jonathan Singer found a black canvas bag under the table where lawmakers sit.Inside, Singer discovered a loaded handgun that belonged to Rep. Jared Wright, R-Fruita, who sits next to him on the House Local Government committee.“I just immediately notified the Sergeant at Arms and soon we realized it was Jared’s bag,” Singer, a Democrat from Longmont, said Wednesday.Wright, who is in his first term, told The Denver Post he often carries a concealed handgun inside the Capitol and under state statute has the right to do so as a peace officer. State law prohibits carrying a gun in the Capitol “without legal authority.” (...)Wright said he was contacted by Gov. John Hickenlooper’s office about the incident and after speaking with Colorado State Patrol and Roxane White, Hickenlooper’s chief of staff, he agreed to no longer carry it inside the building. A report was not filed.“I feel it’s my duty to be a first responder wherever I am at,” said Wright. “That’s why I carry it.”A spokesman from Hickenlooper’s office said Wednesday the incident had been resolved and Wright “agreed to be more careful” about keeping the gun in his possession."
Actually, there was a shooting in July of 2007 at the Colorado state Capitol. The shooter, who was killed by a security guard ( hired to take care of such incidents) actually had mental illness but was able to buy a gun anyway from a licensed firearms dealer:
How did that happen? Should this man's guns have been taken from him, given his state of mind and the reports from the firing range manager? The firing range manager turned him away because he admitted to mental illness. But he got a gun anyway. Thankfully, after the Virginia Tech shooting, we are doing a slightly better job of reporting folks like this to the NICS background check system. But this man was allegedly not adjudicated mentally ill. What to do? The gun range owner did the right thing. How do we make sure people like this man don't get access to guns? He was otherwise law abiding. It is apparent that we could be doing a better job of screening those who are dangerous to themselves or others from getting guns. We have too many holes in our gun laws that err on the side of making sure even crazy people and felons have guns. It's a bad idea and it's not OK. Luckily no one but the mentally ill man got shot or hurt. This was a tragedy in the making that was avoidable.On March 30, 2007, Snyder went to the Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply in Fort Collins, Colorado. In a statement to investigators, the store manager said that Snyder asked to shoot on their range. Snyder was dressed in black pants, a white shirt, and tie. He said Snyder’s “expressionless” demeanor and other behavior caused him concern. He asked Snyder to fill out a form in which he answered “yes” to a question of whether he had “a history of mental illness.”He wrote, “Depression & delusions in past.”8 In response to verbal questions, he said he had not fired a gun before. When asked why he wanted to shoot a gun that day, he said that “he was the divine leader of the Nation.” He was told he could not shoot at the range. He stood silent for a minute then turned and left the store. The store manager was concerned enough to call the Sheriff’s Department to advise them.On April 2, 2007, Snyder purchased a Smith & Wesson .357 magnum revolver from the Sportsman Warehouse in Thornton, Colorado.9He also purchased ammunition. (...)On April 4, 2007, Snyder returned to the Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply. He was dressed in black pants, a white shirt, and tie. The same store manager stated, “He was carrying a Smith & Wesson box the way you would carry a baby.” He opened the box to reveal the .357 revolver. Snyder said he bought it at the Sportsman Warehouse in Thornton. He stated, “I would like to shoot on the range.” When informed he could not use the range for the same reasons previously stated; “without expression, he asked if he could see the range.” He then “stood motionless for 15 minutes viewing the range.” When he turned to leave, he asked if he could shoot .38 Special ammunition out of the gun. The store manager stated, “I told him it can shoot .38 Special and .357 magnum.” The store manager reported this to the Colorado State University Police Department.
It's hard to know what to do with the law abiding folks who are careless. More education? I'm just asking. Not allowing the carrying in so many public places? I'm just asking. Making sure even those who are trained are impeccably careful with their guns would be a good idea don't you think? This off duty police officer must have forgotten about safety and responsibility when his gun discharged in a Miami area restaurant:
The bullet from a gun that accidentally discharged at Shooters Waterfront Cafe hit the metal base of a table, causing it to fragment and ricochet, resulting in minor injuries to at least nine people, police said.
The investigation is ongoing into the Saturday night incident, which involved off-duty Miami-Dade Corrections Officer Marcus Leon Thompson. He told police his Glock 19 9mm firearm went off as he was reaching for money and a valet ticket in his right pants pocket, where he also had his unholstered gun. (...)
Thompson handed Niekerk $100 with his bill and left the restaurant with his wife after the incident, police said. Once people inside pieced together what had happened, Van Niekerk told police he went outside, found Thompson and told him to wait for police.
Thompson told investigators he accidentally discharged his firearm and his supervisors were contacted.
The police reports list nine people who either felt a burning sensation or received small cuts from bullet fragments after Thompson's gun went off, including two staffers. A 79-year-old woman visiting from New Jersey was taken to Broward Health Medical Center with a small fragment in her buttocks.
The officer even left the restaurant without dealing with the incident. That was a bad idea. What's that all about? Didn't he know his gun had discharged? ( By the way, you have to love the name of the restaurant) Where is common sense? When it comes to guns, we can't afford for those who own and carry them not to have common sense.
In Georgia, folks seem to think there is danger in libraries, bars, schools, etc. so that carrying a loaded gun will protect them from some danger in the book shelves. But there's a lot more here about which to be alarmed. From the article:
The Georgia House passed a bill Tuesday to allow guns in places of worship, bars, government buildings without security checkpoints, and even eliminate criminal charges for those who accidentally bring their guns to the airport or other secured buildings where guns are prohibited. The bill, a smorgasbord of new gun rights expansions that safety advocates say may amount to the most aggressive bill yet, also expands gun rights in both public K-12 schools and colleges, and even broadens the state’s expansive Stand Your Ground law.Yes, you read that right. No criminal charges if you "accidentally" bring your gun to the airport or other buildings where guns are prohibited. Great. How will we know the difference between someone who is law abiding and someone who isn't? This law is a really bad idea. So now folks at the Atlanta airport , one of the busiest in the country, will be checking in for flights with those who are carrying firearms to the screening point and have to hope nothing dangerous happens. If it does, let's hope the person with that firearm does actually get charged with a crime. More from the article:
Most of the bill’s provisions apply to anyone who has obtained a state concealed carry permit. While obtaining a permit requires a background check, it does not require any firearms training whatsoever. And another provision of the bill removes the misdemeanor offense of pointing a gun at someone from the list of crimes that bar access to such a permit. Advocates say this provision is particularly alarming for policing domestic violence incidents; currently, police can base a domestic violence gun confiscation on commission of this offense.
The state already has permissive gun laws that allow concealed carry in parks and public transportation. And the new bill seems to expand concealed carry to every conceivable place.
“It’s permeating through virtually every major public institution, virtually,” said Kathryn Grant, who heads the Georgia Gun Sense Coalition. “There aren’t any other spaces left.”It's reassuring to know that almost anyone can get a permit to carry in Georgia with no training and then carry that gun virtually everywhere in Georgia. What a terrible idea. How do laws this get passed in the first place? This is the gun rights extremists going way too far in their zeal. The people of Georgia don't want this law- from the article: ( "An Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll in January found that 78 percent of Georgia registered voters opposed allowing guns on college campuses; 72 percent opposed allowing guns in churches; and 82 percent would require any gun owner who wanted to carry a weapon in public to first take a safety course.") They should think more carefully about who they elect to serve them. Those elected are apparently serving themselves and the corporate gun lobby rather than their constituents. This is not OK and another really bad idea.
This felon tried to buy guns through a Facebook swap site. But he got arrested. Good. Facebook, Instagram, Armslist.com and other Internet sites offer guns for sale with no background checks. That is not acceptable and also a bad idea. All gun sales should have background checks. You can tell Facebook you want them to stop this unregulated gun show here.
Another domestic shooting has resulted in 3 deaths:
Senseless.The Hialeah Police Department has announced they are investigating the discovery of three dead bodies at a Hialeah home as a double murder-suicide.Wednesday afternoon, police said 46-year-old Juan Carlos Hernandez fatally shot 41-year-old Onelia Canales, his wife of approximately three months, and her 16-year-old daughter, Jennifer Cordero, before turning the gun on himself.A search warrant was issued for the home at 581 W. 40th Place, late Tuesday night, and detectives were able to make entry by approximately 10 p.m., where they confirmed three people were found dead of apparent gunshot wounds."The best in the world" was all a relative would say about the family, as he entered the home, the day after the family's bodies were found.The night before, neighbors shared chilling stories they had heard by those related to the woman of the house. "She was screaming today like, 'He brought a gun, and this is what he wanted to do, he wanted to kill my sister and my niece," a neighbor said.
The talk about Michael Dunn is not over. In fact, it's just beginning. I don't think Michael Dunn is seen as a hero by many. But retired Lt. Colonel Robert Bateman has weighed in with this piece about Dunn:
Yes, this is stupid and dangerous behavior. Whether or not you believe Stand Your Ground laws are necessary to a polite and safe society, surely you can believe that Michael Dunn acted very very badly when he shot Jordan Davis. It was a bad idea and now a teen is dead.So now we have a guy who, at a convenience store, decides to initiate an interaction with some kids who are sitting in their own car. He does not like their music (describing it to his fiancée as, "thug"), and he does not like the volume. So he does something about it -- he kills.Did I mention, they are in a parking lot at a convenience store? A place where, pretty much by definition, you are spending only 60 to 600 seconds? A place where, well, you plan to leave? But the AMERICAN PATRIOT Mr. Brian Dunn decided to confront the kids about the volume of their music. These are kids who were sitting inside their own car, and it is he who initiates the interaction. When he got backtalk from them (wow, who knew, teenagers talk back), Mr Dunn pulled out his concealed carry qualified pistol and fired 10 rounds, nine of which hit the car and the kids. Listen to his interview. It is gruesomely fascinating as an illustration of the morons that are allowed to have guns in America. He even shot at them as they were, unarmed, driving away.
And I will end this post with yet another Gun Report column by Joe Nocera of the New York Times to remind us about why we need to pass stronger gun laws and change the conversation about guns and gun violence in America. Real people are losing their lives or injured every hour of every day in America. This is not OK. It's past time for change to happen.
Here's another gun bought through a Facebook seller. This time the purchaser was 15 years old and brought the gun to his Kentucky school. From the article:
This is a really bad idea. Facebook has to stop allowing the sale and swapping of guns on their site. We need to require background checks on unlicensed sales of guns made through the Internet, at gun shows, and flea markets. Guns are dangerous. This incident is proof positive that background checks would work to stop people who can't legally buy guns to buy them anyway.The controversy of a student taking a gun on school property continues as investigators look into filing federal charges against the man who sold him the handgun through Facebook.The boy, who is 15 years old, was caught with a 9mm handgun at Greenup County High School on Friday. He told investigators he bought the gun on the Internet. Greenup County Sheriff Keith Cooper said Tuesday the man and boy arranged the sale through the “Portsmouth Pickers” Facebook group and met up in South Portsmouth, Ky., which is in the western part of Greenup County.“Basically, as far as an excuse, he said the kid looked older than he was,” Cooper said of the man, who came forward to investigators after seeing WSAZ.com’s story on Saturday night. (...) Under federal laws, people younger than 21 years old cannot have or buy a handgun. By default, that makes juveniles “prohibited” people – much like felons, who cannot have guns, according to Kraig Hankins.
Hankins is the chief of the Flatwoods Police Department and spent 20 years as a senior special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or A.T.F.
Hankins said that isn’t the only federal law that comes into play here.
“Under the federal law, a non-licensee of one state cannot transfer a firearm to a non-licensee of another state,” Hankins said.
The man who sold the gun to the teenager lives in Ohio. Because the teen lives in Kentucky, selling a gun online would have been illegal even if the boy was 21 years old. Hankins said sales across state lines are prohibited unless it goes through federally licensed dealers in each state.
E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post has written a compelling article about why Stand Your Ground laws are a bad idea:
The law is supposed to solve problems, not create them. Laws should provide as much clarity as possible, not expand the realms of ambiguity and subjectivity. Laws ought to bring about the practical results their promoters claim they’ll achieve. And at its best, the law can help us to live together more harmoniously.By all these measures, “stand your ground” laws are a failure. These statutes make the already difficult task of jurors even harder. They aggravate mistrust across racial lines. They appear to increase, rather than decrease, crime.
Thank you Mr. Dionne. Stand Your Ground laws were and are a solution looking for a problem. Legislators were fooled or coerced into passing this dangerous law in half of the states of our country. Attempts to pass the law in other states have failed. It's time for our leaders to stand their ground against the corporate gun lobby and to stand up for victims.(...) Stand-your-ground laws shift the balance of power on the streets to those who carry weapons. They thus provide an incentive for everyone to be armed, which is why the National Rifle Association has pressured legislatures in some two dozen states to enact them. We shouldn’t have to wait for another death and controversial trial to recognize that this is a poor reason for laws that cause such palpable harm. It’s time to repeal them.