What do the gun rights extremists and the NRA have to say about the pain now suffered by the family and friends of the 3 young people who died because of a senseless shooting? We don't know about the injured yet and the future they face. We do know that Daniel Parmeter does not have a future and his parents' future is the pain of their memories of a child who will not go to college, get a job or do the things parents think their children will do in adulthood. From the words of his parents in a T.V. interview:
"I have think about going to a funeral home, picking out a casket. What is that, picking out a casket for your son? We're supposed to go and pick out colleges and supposed to go visit Ohio State next month. I'm mad now. I'm mad," Dina said.
"I know my life will never be the same again. I will get better, but right now, I'll never be, there will always (be) something missing," Bob said.
Danny's parents say they want their son to be remembered as "a funny, loveable kid who would help you with anything."
"He was 16 years old. He doesn't get to live his life. It was taken. He didn't do anything to anybody. He just didn't deserve it," Dina said.Instead we have pro gun guys mocking victims and mocking victim vigils. They mock candle lightings and bell ringings. Why? Because vigils and remembering victims make them uncomfortable. This one is particularly offensive:
" A dead child is a small price to pay to protect our 2nd A rights to stop unjust laws and keep out forgeign invaders!"Yes, dear readers. It's true. This comment exposes a sick underbelly of American gun rights advocates whose loud voices have managed to shape our country's gun laws. We have actual victims and this is the reaction? It belies the fact that of all industrialized countries not at war, we are doing little to make sure guns and their owners are regulated better. But never mind any of that. This comment from the linked blog above, refers to a man who sent me a video link which I chose not to publish because it was so inane and irrelevant. I did, though, share it with others in the gun violence prevention movement who are working to expose this culture. From the blog ( about the comment to me):
Finally, Joan received the following comment from a pro-gun activist Dan Roberts (AKA "Son of the Revolution") at her blog "Common Gunsense." Roberts was responding to a blog Joan posted reagarding the shooting at Chardon High School, in which she wrote, "We can pass more gun laws and we should. Making parents responsible for children getting their hands on guns would help. 28 states have some form of Child Access Prevention laws. Laws requiring mandatory reporting of lost and stolen guns may stop gun owners from being careless with their guns. Safely storing guns should be of utmost importance to keep guns away from the hands of children and teens as well as theft. Guns in the hands of children must first pass through the hands of an adult." Roberts saw this as an opportunity to boast about his six-year-old daughter's proficiency with a bow and gun.You can see the video and read more about what the gun guys had to say after the Ohio shooting and recent victim events on the blog above. The thing is, people become victims of gunshot injuries in the instant it takes to pull a gun's trigger. And then, suddenly, a real human being is a number. The numbers show that America's rate of gun deaths per 100,000 far exceeds that of other industrialized countries not at war. Do we want to live in a country that tolerates a certain number of victims as collateral damage in order for the gun guys to keep all the guns they want and claim, falsely, that their rights are being infringed? If so, shame on us for letting this happen. Shame on us for allowing pro gun extremists to keep us from doing the right thing and protecting our children from being safe in their schools. The answer is not to arm teachers or school employees. Teachers are busy keeping the kids safe once the shooting begins as they put their lock down plans in place. Some of the gun rights extremists have suggested arming cafeteria workers. Right. Ask them how that would work out in the real world instead of their fantasy world.
On this blog, the usual commenters are staying away and remaining quiet except for "son of the revolution" who sent me the above linked video. What can they say? They can claim nothing could have been done to stop this shooting or all of the other school shootings in America. They can claim that if only a teacher or someone had a gun, this would not have happened. They are wrong. Or maybe they know that most guns used in school shootings come from the home of a family member or friend of the shooter. That upends the idea that more guns make us safer. From this article about the alleged source of the gun in the Ohio shooting and where school shooters get their guns comes a partial list of school shootings and gun sources. This one from a Minnesota school shooting caught my eye:
March 21, 2005: With his own .22-caliber handgun, and his grandfather's Glock handgun and 12-gauge shotgun, Jeff Weise, 16, shot and killed his grandfather, a policeman and his grandfather's girlfriend at their home, then went to his high school, also on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in northern Minnesota, and fatally shot eight people, including himself.An earlier(2003) school shooting in Minnesota, in Cold Springs/Rocori High School, also was the result of a teen taking his father's gun from his own home (father was a Sheriff's deputy) , resulting in 2 dead teens and a young man sitting in prison. We should be making guns less accessible to kids, not more accessible. Adults must be more responsible with their own guns if they have them. What happened to the responsibility part of the second amendment? Most rights come with responsibilities. In our current gun culture, the cavalier and careless way with which some adults treat guns in the home and their gun rights, for that matter, needs to change. Changing laws and changing our culture is the answer- not more guns or easy access to guns.
This blog by "spocko" caught my attention because it put into writing all of the things I have been experiencing and noticing about the gun rights extremists. From the article:
This preemptive rush to deny people a chance to talk about making changes is an acknowledgement that this event is their most vulnerable time. They know that when emotions run high is exactly the time when change can take place. They also know that the media won’t do anything beyond their standard, “views differ on the shape of the world and the truth lies somewhere in the middle” stories.The Guns Everywhere folks are still smarting from the time Ronald Reagan and James Brady were shot and some changes were actually made. But they have learned their lesson. No gun show loophole laws in Arizona were closed after the Gabby Gifford shooting.
And then the writer of this piece sets up a fictional scenario where this happens. A gun rights extremist gets together with the wife of one of the police officers shot in the ambush in a Tacoma, WA coffee shop. Here is how he sets a scene that turns this whole argument into the practical real life of every day shootings and not the fantasy world of the gun nuts:(...) I’ve suggested before that following yet another tragic shooting I wanted to bring together on TV/video the people who want to bring guns everywhere with victims of gun violence. I don’t want the trained professionals of the NRA to have a discussion with some random “anti-gunner.” I want to get the people populating the comments section of local and national media to talk to someone who can personally explain how cruel or ridiculous their ideas are based on personal experience.
Following our discussion we will be going to a local school where, for the next two weeks, you will be taped teaching while waiting to see if someone may or may not surprise you and shoot you. The shooter may or may not be one of the students in your classroom.
If you fail the test, your job for the rest of your life is to convince people who thought just like you how ridiculous your fantasy is. You agree to set up these same kind of trainings to disabuse others of your dangerous fantasy.
If you win, and successfully shoot the shooter before they can shoot you and others — and don’t accidentally shoot a innocent student — you can spend the rest of your life implementing your current fantasy, which you are already doing. Now you will have proof.
Will you accept this challenge?And speaking of the real life fantasy world, in the midst of the news about yet another school shooting, states are taking up laws to loosen our gun laws instead of strengthening them. For instance, in the state of Virginia, Governor McDonnell signed the bill to repeal the one handgun a month law. On the day after the Ohio school shooting with heightened awareness about guns and shootings, the Governor decided it was in the best interest of residents of his state to let them all buy more guns. 66% of Virginians were opposed to the bill. But whatever. The NRA knows better about public safety in the state where the worst school shooting in our country's history took place- that being the shooting at Virginia Tech. Victims and survivors of the Virginia Tech shooting met with the Governor to ask him not to sign the bill. Never mind victims. Who are they anyway compared to the influence of the NRA and the minority of gun owners who simply must be able to buy more than one gun a month for some inexplicable reason? The second amendment does not protect the number of guns that can be purchased. Insanity reigns. They go too far. We are not going away.Where is common sense?
The Minnesota Senate and House have also passed a bill that will allow people with guns to shoot others under the subjective presumption that someone could do them bodily harm. It has not been signed into law by Governor Mark Dayton yet. According to the Protect Minnesota (working to end gun violence) organization:
" It eliminates the rule of retreat in all locations -- which is the guide in current law that makes killing a last resort, only when necessary. Without the rule of retreat in public places, this is "Shoot First, Ask Questions Later." People can already defend themselves and their families in their homes, without any rule of retreat. This bill expands the home to include the yard, cars, tents, boats, driveways. People can already defend themselves in these locations; this bill radically changes what is justifiable. It creates a legal presumption that anyone who has tried to enter the yard, for example, intends harm and can be shot. This endangers teenagers and neighbors who enter people's yards, or disoriented people going to the wrong door. As pointed out by police chief David Kolb, a minor entering a yard by stealth to steal apples could be shot to death. Police officers pointed out that they enter yards by force or stealth often, as part of their work, and that this bill endangers them. All of the major law enforcement organizations in Minnesota oppose the bill. Police testified that it makes the prosecution of murder nearly impossible."Further on the day after this horrendous shooting just one state away, this pro gun rights extremist just had to rub someone's face in the fact that he has rights to carry his gun wherever he goes- even in the voting booth in a Michigan school, of all places. He was wrong, of course. Shame on him for flaunting his gun in a school and being a show-off with his gun. If he thought this was cute or daring or whatever, he is sadly mistaken. It's time for these folks to stop this junk. People do not want guns in schools. The extremists think they can do anything they want. Never mind common sense or the law. These are the things that should turn people away from the NRA and its' minions.
Each of the articles or news stories has questioned why in the world our country should tolerate regular school shootings? It's not time for those of us who believe in common sense to be quiet. It's time for some noise. This woman decided not to be quiet:
I hate to leave you with this, but sometimes pictures speak volumes of words. Thus is this one of a gun rights activist. In light of the incidents of the last few days, it bears repeating that the gun rights extremists are just not into thinking about victims. It's all about them and their love of guns. For me, it's about love of life and wanting to keep children and our communities safe. Which picture do you like? An almost naked ugly and scary looking dude surrounded by his guns and gun paraphenalia in a provocative pose or children learning and playing in a safe school? I bet I know the answer.What has happened to our world that I find myself methodically explaining to my 9-year-old what to do in the event of gunshots at his school?Like every parent everywhere, I tense up each time I hear of a school shooting, then exhale heavily, relieved that it didn’t happen in my kids’ school, in our school district, in our city.Monday’s burst of gunfire in Chardon, Ohio, which left three high school students dead and two hurt, was just the latest grisly chapter in what has become an unnervingly commonplace occurrence: a disaffected child — in this case a student at a school for at-risk kids who was alternately described as a “bullied outcast” and a “very normal, just teenage boy“ — unleashes his frustration and aggression on his classmate.