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I hope this blog will provoke some thoughtful reflection about the issue of guns and gun violence. I am passionate about the issue and would love to change some misperceptions and the culture of gun violence in America by sharing with readers words, photos, videos and clips from articles to promote common sense about gun issues. Many of you will agree with me- some will not. I am only one person but one among many who think it's time to do something about this national problem. The views expressed by me in this blog do not represent any group with which I am associated but are rather my own personal opinions and thoughts.
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Wednesday, April 13, 2011

"Gun Fight" at the O.K. Corral

Tonight on HBO, an important film will be shown. The theme of the film is gun violence as seen from the perspective of both sides of the issue. That is why the title is "Gun Fight". There is clearly a "fight" going on about the role of guns in our society and how they can be regulated. I fight for common sense concerning guns and gun legislation. The "gun guys" fight for their rights and think that the gun control organizations are trying to take said rights and/or their guns away. This is not true, of course, but we fight about it anyway. Both sides are convinced they are right which they can't be. But there is a way to find some common ground if only we would stop fighting. Is that possible? Time will tell. I hope you will watch this show tonight. From the sounds of it, neither side will be happy; I'm happy the media is paying attention to the issue. The more light that is shed on how things are and how they can change for the better to reduce and prevent gun deaths and injuries, the more safe our communities will be. I'm all for safety and I'm against all the shootings. Why fight over that? What I want is for our elected leaders to realize that they can fight the NRA and still be elected. They can and should fight for what's right.

The gun fight at the original O.K. Corral has been blown out of proportion as is the gun fight over words and rights today. Only 3 people were killed ( and 3 injured) in the infamous gun fight on October 26, 1881 even though 30 shots were fired. Obviously many of those bullets missed their targets. Over 30 shots were fired on January 8, 2011 at a Tucson shopping center. 6 died and 13 were injured. Actual gun fights still occur only are more deadly thanks to the ease of shooting a lot of people at one time with high capacity magazines and guns that will accept them. Where are we 130 years after the O.K. Corral? Tonight's show will attempt to find out.

14 comments:

  1. Except that, as usual, it's NOT seen through both sides of the issue. It's a hit piece.

    Who speaks for the liberty position? Hmmmm?

    I'll pass, thanks.

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  2. The "Wild West" was an invention of the penny dreadful writers. The homicide rate in the western cow towns like Abilene, Dodge, etc., was far lower than in New York or Boston.

    All those guns lead to a few well-publicized incidents that sold a lot of pulp fiction, but weren't representative of life in the western towns.

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  3. "The "gun guys" fight for their rights and think that the gun control organizations are trying to take said rights and/or their guns away. This is not true, of course, but we fight about it anyway."

    I believe this statement is very inaccurate. The regulations you seek relegate guns to privilage status rather than a right. You also seek to reinterpret the second amendment to grant "legitimate sporting usage" rather than it's original meaning as a stopgap against government, invasion, and self defense.

    You also say that you don't want to take our guns away. You forget that the AR series of rifle is currently the most popular selling firearm at present. As you state many times that you would like to see a ban on these firearms, it would seem to be that your above statement is disingenuous.

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  4. "There is clearly a "fight" going on about the role of guns in our society and how they can be regulated."

    Regulated or restricted?

    Washington State just legalized suppressors. Looks like a national suppressor movement is underway. It'd be mighty sweet if I could practice with the .22 without disturbing the neighbors.

    "I fight for common sense concerning guns and gun legislation. "

    If what you advocate for is common sense - why didn't Thomas Paine advocate for the same things?

    "What I want is for our elected leaders to realize that they can fight the NRA and still be elected"

    The politicians count the votes. In many areas the voters don't agree with your views.

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  5. "Actual gun fights still occur only are more deadly thanks to the ease of shooting a lot of people at one time with high capacity magazines and guns that will accept them. "

    No, actually the higher death toll in the Arizona shooting was a result of it not being a gun fight. It was a massacre, not a gun fight. If you took a pair of old fashioned .45s and shot them into an unarmed crowd of elderly men, women, and children you could expect a greater death toll than that of the infamous OK Corral gunfight.

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  6. Joan-

    There's a debate about gun ownership here:

    http://www.avclub.com/articles/gun-fight,54551/

    Our side is losing. Would you mind chiming in?

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  7. good article. Whose side is losing?

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  8. The show was a disaster, Ms Koppel was intensely biased in her reporting. The scenes from the hospitals were purely sensationalism, and added nothing to the show. The rest, putrid.

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  9. japete,

    Have you seen this?

    The Guns of Academe

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/opinion/15winkler.html

    "Both sides are probably wrong."

    Wow -- one does not hear those words very often in this debate. It sounds as if Professor Winkler may be more interested in the truth than in a partisan agenda.

    I think that I will watch for his new book.

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  10. Yes, I did see that article. The quote goes on like this: " Both sides are probably wrong. Gun violence at colleges and universities — there are fewer than 20 homicides on campus per year — will probably not be affected much, one way or another. What is really at stake is America’s gun culture."and " Even if a student with a gun can use it to defend against a mass murderer, it’s hardly clear that anyone, including the armed student, is made safer. Policemen or other students with guns might not be able to differentiate among gunmen, putting the person defending herself at risk of being shot by mistake. Even well-trained gun owners suffer enormous mental stress in a shootout, making hitting a target extremely difficult." and " Exposure can breed tolerance. Arguably, that is exactly what’s behind the growing acceptance of gays and lesbians. The visibility of gay couples in society and popular culture has led many Americans to realize that homosexuality is not wrong. Gun advocates are betting the same can happen with firearms.

    The strategy, however, is risky. Teenagers might begin to see carrying a gun as a mark of adulthood, like smoking and drinking. Without the maturity of age, they might turn to violence too quickly.

    Gun rights advocates are willing to take these risks because colleges are where the next generation of America’s leaders will be produced. What better place to affect people’s attitudes about guns than the very institutions responsible for teaching our most cherished values and ideals?"

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  11. Gun rights advocates are willing to take these risks because colleges are where the next generation of America’s leaders will be produced. What better place to affect people’s attitudes about guns than the very institutions responsible for teaching our most cherished values and ideals?,

    I agree. And the experience of legal concealed carry in state after state is that the "risks" are extremely low. The gunbanner's cries of "blood in the streets" have proven to be false, again and again.

    That's why when this debate is carried in the arena of facts and not emotionalism and hysteria, the liberty community wins. As we're winning now.

    - GMC70

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  12. What percentage of the public do you think the "Liberty community" represents?

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